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70. Photo Joseph DAGNALL1,2,626,627,628,629,630,631 was born on 14 Sep 1866 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.250,257,261,273,275,626,627,629,630,631,632,633,634,635,636 He was baptized on 14 Oct 1866 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England.30 He was baptized on 14 Oct 1866 in St Marys Prescot, Father Watchmaker, Of Prescot, By G W Wall.314,315 He appeared in the census on 2 Apr 1871 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.250,257,261 He lived in 12 Market St, Prescot, Lancashire in 1871.250,257,261 He appeared in the census in 1881 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.273,275,637,638 He lived in 40 Rowsen Street, Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1881.273,275,639,640 In 1881 he was a Watch Maker Apprentice in Prescot, Lancashire, England.641,642,643,644 He lived in Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1881.626,630 In 1881 he was a Watch Maker Apprentice in Prescot, Lancashire, England.642
Joseph DAGNALL Information.


Born Evelyn Avenue Prescot. according to Jessie Dagnall.

1881 CENSUS INDEX, AGE 14 LIVING WITH FATHER, DANIEL DAGNALL IN PRESCOT.
PIECE 3729 FOLIO 117 PAGE 6
LISTED AS WATCH MAKER APPRENTICE. BORN PRESCOT. He was confirmed on 9 May 1888 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England.645,646,647 He was confirmed on 9 May 1888 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England. By the Bishop of Liverpool He lived in 40 Rowsen Street, Prescot, Lancashire, England between 1891 and 1898.242 In 1891 he was a Watch Detaul Maker.242 In 1898/99 he was a WATCHMAKER WORKED WELL INTO HIS 80`S in Prescot, Lancashire, England.648 In 1901 he was a Watch case maker.633,636 He lived in Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1901.627,629,631 He Moved because of an outbreak of Diptheria which decimated the family in Prescot. about 1911 in Handsworth, Birmingham, England. He Moved because of an outbreak of Diptheria which decimated the family in Prescot. about 1911 in Handsworth, Birmingham, England. He died in 1956 in Murdoch Rd Handsworth. He was ANGLICAN. LEFT PRESCOT BECAUSE OF DIPTHERIA
Born Evelyn Avenue Prescot. according to Jessie Dagnall.

1881 CENSUS INDEX, AGE 14 LIVING WITH FATHER, DANIEL DAGNALL IN PRESCOT.
PIECE 3729 FOLIO 117 PAGE 6
LISTED AS WATCH MAKER APPRENTICE. BORN PRESCOT.


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LEFT PRESCOT BECAUSE OF DIPTHERIA
Born Evelyn Avenue Prescot. according to Jessie Dagnall.

1881 CENSUS INDEX, AGE 14 LIVING WITH FATHER, DANIEL DAGNALL IN PRESCOT.
PIECE 3729 FOLIO 117 PAGE 6
LISTED AS WATCH MAKER APPRENTICE. BORN PRESCOT.



LEFT PRESCOT BECAUSE OF DIPTHERIA
Born Evelyn Avenue Prescot. according to Jessie Dagnall.

1881 CENSUS INDEX, AGE 14 LIVING WITH FATHER, DANIEL DAGNALL IN PRESCOT.
PIECE 3729 FOLIO 117 PAGE 6
LISTED AS WATCH MAKER APPRENTICE. BORN PRESCOT.


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LEFT PRESCOT BECAUSE OF DIPTHERIA
Born Evelyn Avenue Prescot. according to Jessie Dagnall.

1881 CENSUS INDEX, AGE 14 LIVING WITH FATHER, DANIEL DAGNALL IN PRESCOT.
PIECE 3729 FOLIO 117 PAGE 6
LISTED AS WATCH MAKER APPRENTICE. BORN PRESCOT.

Joseph DAGNALL and Margaret BROWN had marriage banns published between 22 May 1898 and 5 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England.649,650,651 They were married on 11 Jun 1898 in St John, Ravenhead, Lancashire, England.271,652 They appeared in the census on 31 Mar 1901 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.633,636 They lived in 20 Carlton St, Prescot, Lancashire in 1901.633,636 They lived in 2 Market Place, Prescot, Lancashire. Next door to the town hall. He used to climb from that house to the town hall, Jessie thinks through some sort of trap door opening. He used to sneak in and play in the Town Hall.

Patricia Houghton. They lived in 2 Market Place, Prescot, Lancashire.653 Photo Margaret BROWN1,2,654 (daughter of George BROWN and Elizabeth ASHTON) was born on 30 Nov 1868 in Thatto Heath, St Helens, Lancashire, England.633,655,656,657,658 Old Stone Road, Donkey Common, ( St Helens?) She was born on 30 Nov 1868 in Thatto Heath, St Helens, Lancashire, England.636,654,657,659,660,661,662 She was baptized on 1 Jan 1869 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England.663 Baptised by Geo. Holloway, Curate.

Baptized there as the Ravenhead Church had been built but not yet consecrated. The Ravenhead church was built in 1889 in Crossley Road, Ravenhead. Prior to this there was no church in Thatto Heath. She lived in Eccleston In Prescot, Lancashire, England on 1 Jan 1869. She was baptized on 1 Jan 1869 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England.663,664 She appeared in the census in 1871 in Eccleston In Prescot, Lancashire, England.655,665,666,667 She lived in Stone Row, Eccleston near Prescot, Lancashire in 1871.655,665,666,667 She lived in Eccleston, Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1871.654 She lived in 7 Stone Row, Eccleston in Prescot, Lancashire England on 3 Apr 1881.656,659,668,669 She appeared in the census in 1881 in Eccleston In Prescot, Lancashire, England.656,659,670,671 She was confirmed on 17 Jun 1885. She received first communion on 17 Jun 1885. She appeared in the census in 1891 in Eccleston In Prescot, Lancashire, England.672,673 She lived in 67 Lugsmore Lane, Eccleston in Prescot, Lancashire in 1891.672,673 She lived in Lugsmore Lane, Ravenhead, Lancashire in 1898.271 She lived in Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1901.662 She lived in 97 Greenhill Road, Handsworth, Birmingham about 1957.674,675,676 She lived in 97 Greenhill Road, Handsworth, Birmingham about 1957. lived with Jesse Dagnall She died on 16 Jul 1964 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England.657 She was educated Ravenhead School and The Windmill. Education at the Ravenhead school cost 2d per week in infants, and 3d for girls in the Windmill, but the boys went to a purpose built school on the same site. She was educated Ravenhead School and The Windmill.677 She was also known as Margaret Dagnall.662

Margaret BROWN Information.
According to Patricia E. Dagnall and Jesse Dagnall, this was the
peron in the Dagnall family with most Prescot connections. Her
family lived in the area a long time and worked in Prescot pit.
She went to School at Ravenhead school , it cost 2d per week in
the infants and 3d for girls in the windmill, but the boys went to a purpose built school on the same site. She was bapt in Prescot church because Ravenhead church had not yet been consecrated. The church was in Crossley Rd Ravenhead, built in 1889. At that time there was no church in Thatto Heath, it being only a hamlet.
When Gran was young, elections took over a period of three weeks and Billie Gladstone put up for election at St Helens (which at the time came under Newton Le Willows) but he was defeated.









Margaret BROWN Information.
According to Patricia E. Dagnall and Jesse Dagnall, this was the
peron in the Dagnall family with most Prescot connections. Her
family lived in the area a long time and worked in Prescot pit.
She went to School at Ravenhead school , it cost 2d per week in
the infants and 3d for girls in the windmill, but the boys went to a purpose built school on the same site. She was bapt in Prescot church because Ravenhead church had not yet been consecrated. The church was in Crossley Rd Ravenhead, built in 1889. At that time there was no church in Thatto Heath, it being only a hamlet.
When Gran was young, elections took over a period of three weeks and Billie Gladstone put up for election at St Helens (which at the time came under Newton Le Willows) but he was defeated.








Margaret BROWN Information.
According to Patricia E. Dagnall and Jesse Dagnall, this was the
peron in the Dagnall family with most Prescot connections. Her
family lived in the area a long time and worked in Prescot pit.
She went to School at Ravenhead school , it cost 2d per week in
the infants and 3d for girls in the windmill, but the boys went to a purpose built school on the same site. She was bapt in Prescot church because Ravenhead church had not yet been consecrated. The church was in Crossley Rd Ravenhead, built in 1889. At that time there was no church in Thatto Heath, it being only a hamlet.
When Gran was young, elections took over a period of three weeks and Billie Gladstone put up for election at St Helens (which at the time came under Newton Le Willows) but he was defeated.









Margaret BROWN Information.
According to Patricia E. Dagnall and Jesse Dagnall, this was the
peron in the Dagnall family with most Prescot connections. Her
family lived in the area a long time and worked in Prescot pit.
She went to School at Ravenhead school , it cost 2d per week in
the infants and 3d for girls in the windmill, but the boys went to a purpose built school on the same site. She was bapt in Prescot church because Ravenhead church had not yet been consecrated. The church was in Crossley Rd Ravenhead, built in 1889. At that time there was no church in Thatto Heath, it being only a hamlet.
When Gran was young, elections took over a period of three weeks and Billie Gladstone put up for election at St Helens (which at the time came under Newton Le Willows) but he was defeated.




Joseph DAGNALL and Margaret BROWN had the following children:

121

i.

Elizabeth DAGNALL1,2,678 was born on 15 Nov 1898 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.648,678,679,680 She was baptized on 15 Jan 1899 in St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England.648 She lived in Prescot, Lancashire, England in 1901.678 She died DIED IN FIRE in 1903 in Prescot, Lancashire, England.

+122

ii.

Daniel DAGNALL.

+123

iii.

George DAGNALL.

124

iv.

 Photo Joseph DAGNALL1,2 was born on 31 Jan 1905 in Evelyn Avenue, Prescot, Lancashire, England.679,680 He was educated Army Certificate of Education - Passed in English, Mathematics, Geography and Map Reading on 10 Oct 1934. He died on 9 Jun 1936 in Aldershot, Hampshire, England. He had his estate probated on 15 Jul 1936 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England. He was buried in 1937 in Handsworth, Birmingham, England. He served in the military in India.681,682,683,684 He served in the military. He served in the military in India.685 Joseph DAGNALL Information.


From notes by Patricia Houghton, May !998.

Uncle Joe 1905-1936.

He was thought to be a budding little draughtsman and was enrolled for some sort
of training - he was good at design and drawing, but although Gran thought he
was attending classes, he wasn't! Uncle Joe worked for a small jewellery company
in Hockley, Birmingham - he got the job thro' someone who knew him and it was
whilst working there that he designed (and I think made) Mother's bracelet.
later grandpa was to work for the same jewellery firm.

It seems that uncle Joe always wanted to go into the army and was marking time
until he was 18. When he first applied, he was turned down because he had flat
feet. Somehow or other he got round that and applied again in the hope of
getting into a 'horse regiment', but he was too young for that so he settled
for the 2nd Batt. Hampshire Regt. None of this was known to the family at the
time and only became known some years later and some of the details were provided
by Uncle Percy who was Uncle Joe's friend. Uncle Percy kept silent for years after
Uncle Joe's death and I am just thinking that as his confidant it might have been
Uncle Percy who knew of any possible feelings between his sister and best friend.
Nevertheless, Uncle Joe left via the little back room window, taking most of his
belongings and went off to join the army as soon as possible after becoming 18.
He wrote to gran and the family to tell them his whereabouts etc. He spent about
three years with the 2nd. Batt. Hampshires in this country and became a very good
shot, winning "The Guns" award (best shot) several times, and rising to the rank
of Sgt. in the process.

However, it seems he wanted to go to India where the 1st. Bn. hampshires was
stationed, and this he wanted very badly. At that particular time it was only
possible to be transferred on a 'rank for rank' basis, and there was no vacancy
for a Sgt. only for a Private in the band. Uncle Joe requested a transfer several
times with no joy and so badly did he want to go to India that on the last
occasion he was refused because of rank, he went out of the building and broke a
window, so losing his stripes.

So he got his transfer to India, as a drummer in the band of the 1st. Bn.
Hampshires. When Grandpa Dagnall knew Uncle Joe was going to be a drummer in the
Band he was quite tickled because he himself has started as a bass drummer in the
Volunteers before he learned to play the cornet (NB The Volunteers became the
Territorial Army).

Uncle Joe loved India and spent 9 years there coming home on a 3 month leave
just once: in either 1933 or 1934. He learned to play several instruments,
cornet, euphonium, trombone and finally the saxaphone, regaining his stripes in
the process.

He spent time in Central India, Rawalpindi, Dalhousie and on the N.W. Frontier.
In December 1935 he left the 1st. Bn. to return to England to be involved in the
Aldershot Tattoo. This meant leaving all his friends and colleagues in India.

Thinking back, Jessie was always thought that he became a bit isolated and was
not as full of life as he had always been. He was among strangers and badly
missed his life in India. Jessie says she has thought about Uncle Joe's death and
his mental state at the time he died quite a lot over the years. She says she
remembers little things which make her think he was deeply depressed. I suppose
he must have been, but when he died he had no financial worries and Jessie is
convinced that the preparations for the Tattoo were not influential in his death.
he was a good musician and enjoyed his work.

He died on 9th June 1936 aged 31. Uncle george went to Aldershot with Dad. They
saw his Captain, who called Uncle joe a 'unique' man. It was from this officer that they learned about the broken window episode. From notes by Patricia Houghton, May !998.

Uncle Joe 1905-1936.

He was thought to be a budding little draughtsman and was enrolled for some sort
of training - he was good at design and drawing, but although Gran thought he
was attending classes, he wasn't! Uncle Joe worked for a small jewellery company
in Hockley, Birmingham - he got the job thro' someone who knew him and it was
whilst working there that he designed (and I think made) Mother's bracelet.
later grandpa was to work for the same jewellery firm.

It seems that uncle Joe always wanted to go into the army and was marking time
until he was 18. When he first applied, he was turned down because he had flat
feet. Somehow or other he got round that and applied again in the hope of
getting into a 'horse regiment', but he was too young for that so he settled
for the 2nd Batt. Hampshire Regt. None of this was known to the family at the
time and only became known some years later and some of the details were provided
by Uncle Percy who was Uncle Joe's friend. Uncle Percy kept silent for years after
Uncle Joe's death and I am just thinking that as his confidant it might have been
Uncle Percy who knew of any possible feelings between his sister and best friend.
Nevertheless, Uncle Joe left via the little back room window, taking most of his
belongings and went off to join the army as soon as possible after becoming 18.
He wrote to gran and the family to tell them his whereabouts etc. He spent about
three years with the 2nd. Batt. Hampshires in this country and became a very good
shot, winning "The Guns" award (best shot) several times, and rising to the rank
of Sgt. in the process.

However, it seems he wanted to go to India where the 1st. Bn. hampshires was
stationed, and this he wanted very badly. At that particular time it was only
possible to be transferred on a 'rank for rank' basis, and there was no vacancy
for a Sgt. only for a Private in the band. Uncle Joe requested a transfer several
times with no joy and so badly did he want to go to India that on the last
occasion he was refused because of rank, he went out of the building and broke a
window, so losing his stripes.

So he got his transfer to India, as a drummer in the band of the 1st. Bn.
Hampshires. When Grandpa Dagnall knew Uncle Joe was going to be a drummer in the
Band he was quite tickled because he himself has started as a bass drummer in the
Volunteers before he learned to play the cornet (NB The Volunteers became the
Territorial Army).

Uncle Joe loved India and spent 9 years there coming home on a 3 month leave
just once: in either 1933 or 1934. He learned to play several instruments,
cornet, euphonium, trombone and finally the saxaphone, regaining his stripes in
the process.

He spent time in Central India, Rawalpindi, Dalhousie and on the N.W. Frontier.
In December 1935 he left the 1st. Bn. to return to England to be involved in the
Aldershot Tattoo. This meant leaving all his friends and colleagues in India.

Thinking back, Jessie was always thought that he became a bit isolated and was
not as full of life as he had always been. He was among strangers and badly
missed his life in India. Jessie says she has thought about Uncle Joe's death and
his mental state at the time he died quite a lot over the years. She says she
remembers little things which make her think he was deeply depressed. I suppose
he must have been, but when he died he had no financial worries and Jessie is
convinced that the preparations for the Tattoo were not influential in his death.
he was a good musician and enjoyed his work.

He died on 9th June 1936 aged 31. Uncle george went to Aldershot with Dad. They
saw his Captain, who called Uncle joe a 'unique' man. It was from this officer that they learned about the broken window episode.

From notes by Patricia Houghton, May !998.

Uncle Joe 1905-1936.

He was thought to be a budding little draughtsman and was enrolled for some sort
of training - he was good at design and drawing, but although Gran thought he
was attending classes, he wasn't! Uncle Joe worked for a small jewellery company
in Hockley, Birmingham - he got the job thro' someone who knew him and it was
whilst working there that he designed (and I think made) Mother's bracelet.
later grandpa was to work for the same jewellery firm.

It seems that uncle Joe always wanted to go into the army and was marking time
until he was 18. When he first applied, he was turned down because he had flat
feet. Somehow or other he got round that and applied again in the hope of
getting into a 'horse regiment', but he was too young for that so he settled
for the 2nd Batt. Hampshire Regt. None of this was known to the family at the
time and only became known some years later and some of the details were provided
by Uncle Percy who was Uncle Joe's friend. Uncle Percy kept silent for years after
Uncle Joe's death and I am just thinking that as his confidant it might have been
Uncle Percy who knew of any possible feelings between his sister and best friend.
Nevertheless, Uncle Joe left via the little back room window, taking most of his
belongings and went off to join the army as soon as possible after becoming 18.
He wrote to gran and the family to tell them his whereabouts etc. He spent about
three years with the 2nd. Batt. Hampshires in this country and became a very good
shot, winning "The Guns" award (best shot) several times, and rising to the rank
of Sgt. in the process.

However, it seems he wanted to go to India where the 1st. Bn. hampshires was
stationed, and this he wanted very badly. At that particular time it was only
possible to be transferred on a 'rank for rank' basis, and there was no vacancy
for a Sgt. only for a Private in the band. Uncle Joe requested a transfer several
times with no joy and so badly did he want to go to India that on the last
occasion he was refused because of rank, he went out of the building and broke a
window, so losing his stripes.

So he got his transfer to India, as a drummer in the band of the 1st. Bn.
Hampshires. When Grandpa Dagnall knew Uncle Joe was going to be a drummer in the
Band he was quite tickled because he himself has started as a bass drummer in the
Volunteers before he learned to play the cornet (NB The Volunteers became the
Territorial Army).

Uncle Joe loved India and spent 9 years there coming home on a 3 month leave
just once: in either 1933 or 1934. He learned to play several instruments,
cornet, euphonium, trombone and finally the saxaphone, regaining his stripes in
the process.

He spent time in Central India, Rawalpindi, Dalhousie and on the N.W. Frontier.
In December 1935 he left the 1st. Bn. to return to England to be involved in the
Aldershot Tattoo. This meant leaving all his friends and colleagues in India.

Thinking back, Jessie was always thought that he became a bit isolated and was
not as full of life as he had always been. He was among strangers and badly
missed his life in India. Jessie says she has thought about Uncle Joe's death and
his mental state at the time he died quite a lot over the years. She says she
remembers little things which make her think he was deeply depressed. I suppose
he must have been, but when he died he had no financial worries and Jessie is
convinced that the preparations for the Tattoo were not influential in his death.
he was a good musician and enjoyed his work.

He died on 9th June 1936 aged 31. Uncle george went to Aldershot with Dad. They
saw his Captain, who called Uncle joe a 'unique' man. It was from this officer that they learned about the broken window episode.

From notes by Patricia Houghton, May !998.

Uncle Joe 1905-1936.

He was thought to be a budding little draughtsman and was enrolled for some sort
of training - he was good at design and drawing, but although Gran thought he
was attending classes, he wasn't! Uncle Joe worked for a small jewellery company
in Hockley, Birmingham - he got the job thro' someone who knew him and it was
whilst working there that he designed (and I think made) Mother's bracelet.
later grandpa was to work for the same jewellery firm.

It seems that uncle Joe always wanted to go into the army and was marking time
until he was 18. When he first applied, he was turned down because he had flat
feet. Somehow or other he got round that and applied again in the hope of
getting into a 'horse regiment', but he was too young for that so he settled
for the 2nd Batt. Hampshire Regt. None of this was known to the family at the
time and only became known some years later and some of the details were provided
by Uncle Percy who was Uncle Joe's friend. Uncle Percy kept silent for years after
Uncle Joe's death and I am just thinking that as his confidant it might have been
Uncle Percy who knew of any possible feelings between his sister and best friend.
Nevertheless, Uncle Joe left via the little back room window, taking most of his
belongings and went off to join the army as soon as possible after becoming 18.
He wrote to gran and the family to tell them his whereabouts etc. He spent about
three years with the 2nd. Batt. Hampshires in this country and became a very good
shot, winning "The Guns" award (best shot) several times, and rising to the rank
of Sgt. in the process.

However, it seems he wanted to go to India where the 1st. Bn. hampshires was
stationed, and this he wanted very badly. At that particular time it was only
possible to be transferred on a 'rank for rank' basis, and there was no vacancy
for a Sgt. only for a Private in the band. Uncle Joe requested a transfer several
times with no joy and so badly did he want to go to India that on the last
occasion he was refused because of rank, he went out of the building and broke a
window, so losing his stripes.

So he got his transfer to India, as a drummer in the band of the 1st. Bn.
Hampshires. When Grandpa Dagnall knew Uncle Joe was going to be a drummer in the
Band he was quite tickled because he himself has started as a bass drummer in the
Volunteers before he learned to play the cornet (NB The Volunteers became the
Territorial Army).

Uncle Joe loved India and spent 9 years there coming home on a 3 month leave
just once: in either 1933 or 1934. He learned to play several instruments,
cornet, euphonium, trombone and finally the saxaphone, regaining his stripes in
the process.

He spent time in Central India, Rawalpindi, Dalhousie and on the N.W. Frontier.
In December 1935 he left the 1st. Bn. to return to England to be involved in the
Aldershot Tattoo. This meant leaving all his friends and colleagues in India.

Thinking back, Jessie was always thought that he became a bit isolated and was
not as full of life as he had always been. He was among strangers and badly
missed his life in India. Jessie says she has thought about Uncle Joe's death and
his mental state at the time he died quite a lot over the years. She says she
remembers little things which make her think he was deeply depressed. I suppose
he must have been, but when he died he had no financial worries and Jessie is
convinced that the preparations for the Tattoo were not influential in his death.
he was a good musician and enjoyed his work.

He died on 9th June 1936 aged 31. Uncle george went to Aldershot with Dad. They
saw his Captain, who called Uncle joe a 'unique' man. It was from this officer that they learned about the broken window episode.

From notes by Patricia Houghton, May !998.

Uncle Joe 1905-1936.

He was thought to be a budding little draughtsman and was enrolled for some sort
of training - he was good at design and drawing, but although Gran thought he
was attending classes, he wasn't! Uncle Joe worked for a small jewellery company
in Hockley, Birmingham - he got the job thro' someone who knew him and it was
whilst working there that he designed (and I think made) Mother's bracelet.
later grandpa was to work for the same jewellery firm.

It seems that uncle Joe always wanted to go into the army and was marking time
until he was 18. When he first applied, he was turned down because he had flat
feet. Somehow or other he got round that and applied again in the hope of
getting into a 'horse regiment', but he was too young for that so he settled
for the 2nd Batt. Hampshire Regt. None of this was known to the family at the
time and only became known some years later and some of the details were provided
by Uncle Percy who was Uncle Joe's friend. Uncle Percy kept silent for years after
Uncle Joe's death and I am just thinking that as his confidant it might have been
Uncle Percy who knew of any possible feelings between his sister and best friend.
Nevertheless, Uncle Joe left via the little back room window, taking most of his
belongings and went off to join the army as soon as possible after becoming 18.
He wrote to gran and the family to tell them his whereabouts etc. He spent about
three years with the 2nd. Batt. Hampshires in this country and became a very good
shot, winning "The Guns" award (best shot) several times, and rising to the rank
of Sgt. in the process.

However, it seems he wanted to go to India where the 1st. Bn. hampshires was
stationed, and this he wanted very badly. At that particular time it was only
possible to be transferred on a 'rank for rank' basis, and there was no vacancy
for a Sgt. only for a Private in the band. Uncle Joe requested a transfer several
times with no joy and so badly did he want to go to India that on the last
occasion he was refused because of rank, he went out of the building and broke a
window, so losing his stripes.

So he got his transfer to India, as a drummer in the band of the 1st. Bn.
Hampshires. When Grandpa Dagnall knew Uncle Joe was going to be a drummer in the
Band he was quite tickled because he himself has started as a bass drummer in the
Volunteers before he learned to play the cornet (NB The Volunteers became the
Territorial Army).

Uncle Joe loved India and spent 9 years there coming home on a 3 month leave
just once: in either 1933 or 1934. He learned to play several instruments,
cornet, euphonium, trombone and finally the saxaphone, regaining his stripes in
the process.

He spent time in Central India, Rawalpindi, Dalhousie and on the N.W. Frontier.
In December 1935 he left the 1st. Bn. to return to England to be involved in the
Aldershot Tattoo. This meant leaving all his friends and colleagues in India.

Thinking back, Jessie was always thought that he became a bit isolated and was
not as full of life as he had always been. He was among strangers and badly
missed his life in India. Jessie says she has thought about Uncle Joe's death and
his mental state at the time he died quite a lot over the years. She says she
remembers little things which make her think he was deeply depressed. I suppose
he must have been, but when he died he had no financial worries and Jessie is
convinced that the preparations for the Tattoo were not influential in his death.
he was a good musician and enjoyed his work.

He died on 9th June 1936 aged 31. Uncle george went to Aldershot with Dad. They
saw his Captain, who called Uncle joe a 'unique' man. It was from this officer that they learned about the broken window episode.

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v.

Mary DAGNALL.

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 Photo Jessie DAGNALL1,2 was born on 15 Nov 1910 in Bark House, Evelyn Ave, Whiston, Lancashire, England. She was educated in 1923 in St James Girls, Handsworth, Birmingham. She lived in Handsworth, Birmingham, England in 2004. She lived in Handsworth, Birmingham, England in 2004. She died on 10 May 2005 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England. She was cremated on 20 May 2005 in Handsworth Crematorium, Birmingham, West Midlands, England.686,687,688 She was cremated on 20 May 2005 in Handsworth Crematorium, Birmingham, West Midlands, England. Service was a Humanist one - Jessie expressed in her will that she did not want to have "all that religious nonsense".

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